Does Genesis explain why women are so zealous about their looks?

Does Genesis explain why women are so zealous about their looks.

YES!

genesis, and later in the bible, emphasizes women were made for men. Not men for woman.

This is not about the soul but about that soul's feminine identity.

WE are all just souls without sex differences. aS it will be in heaven.

Yet Eve was made to be a helper to Adam. Not Adam a helper to Eve.

Because the woman is made for the man its a part of their identity to be accepted by the man.

It is the feminine part of their identity. Not their soul however.

The woman would be married forever to the man in the original creation plan.

So she has a dominating need to be accepted by her husband based on her feminine identity.

In this fallen world men are not worth it and don't give acceptance and so women seek acceptance for their female identity from all the people they cross. Including other women.

So to get this acceptance they emphasize their femininity by their looks as women.

its not about beauty but about feminine appearance/style. So elderly women never tire either of doing themselves up.

Its all really trying to fill that emptyness inside of lack of acceptance from their husbands, including their disinterest in it, based on their need and desire to be accepted for their femininity .

Women show today in their great attention to their looks the original plan of being made for their husbands. Otherwise they would of just been more men.

This is not about the soul but about identity of sex.

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Hi Robert,

Your post looked lonely so I thought I'd give it a read. Now I believe I am understanding your argument, and if so I have some critiques I'd be interested to hear your rebuttal of: First, your statement makes a generalization that all women are zealous about their looks because of their need to be accepted by man. But there are many women that aren't zealous about their looks, or if they are, it isn't for the reasons you present. There are women who are fully content with their husbands and with God yet still "doll" themselves up merely because of social convention. What about other cultures worldwide where women are not concerned with their looks regardless of their acceptance from men? Furthermore, what about men who work hard to dress nice, look fit, and are overall, zealous about their looks? Man was not created for woman, so then why are they trying to impress women all the time?

Perhaps I am misreading your argument, and if so, please feel free to clarify. But as it stands, I don't think your application of Genesis to women zealous about their looks is appropriate. If anything, it overlooks the variety of dynamic factors that are responsible for women who are concerned about their looks. Dynamic factors that are more so full-filled with faith in God and His Son, not necessarily a man's acceptance. 

Women were created for eternality with a particular husband.

Therefore they are innately needed HIS acceptance of their FEMALE identity part of them. nOt their soul but their female portion of their identity.

In a fallen world their husbands fail to satisfy as relationship is broken by the curse.

So women , unknowingly, strive to gain the missing acceptance for their femininity by dolling up for everyone.

tHey do it for other women and into old age.

its not about beauty but about femininity which manifests itself in looks. they must look feminine to be accepted as feminine.

men do not do it with the same intent or energy whatsoever. women are defined by it.

Other cultures also show this. if not its only because the culture doesn't reward the women for their feminine looks.

Yet upon coming to another nation they would follow suit passionately.

Its all about why women so desperately care about their looks even when not attractive.

its not about beauty but rather shows the need for acceptance in their identity. 

Yet it was for their husbands, not men, that this impulse was to be satisfied.

They were made for their husbands and so need acceptance on why they exist.

 optherwise they would just be more men.

A few comments. A helper is not required to be beautiful, although Eve was surely beautiful. Also, around the world, women marry more for financial security, and men more for a beautiful wife. The cultural pressure for a beautiful woman is strong. In some cultures, a marriagable woman needs to be almost physically flawless. Even in the US, it is uncommon for a successful young man to marry a woman with an obvious beauty flaw (like a big nose), even if she is successful herself.

I didn't say it was about beauty. Its not.

It was about female motivations for acceptance by way of their femininity and so looks is essential. Unattractive and elderly women are just as zealous about looks despite never being good looking.

yes beauty chicks are desired more.

I don't think its that bad however. In evangelical circles looks matters less because guys want girls with Christian motivations and this changes the scoring. However the best looking evangelical girls do get picked first..

No mem don't care about the women being successful and indeed its unwelcome. Thats the mans place. 

Women's beauty matters more because they are more so accepted on their sexual identity whereas men are accepted on their spiritual  identity.

Woman was created for man but man was not created for women.

This comes out in the , dysfunctional, valuing of women on their looks or women valuing themselves on acceptance for their femininity.

The woman was made for eternity with her husband and his profound acceptance of her based on her femininity.

I think I will stay out of this one since it is so sparse in any degree of biblical discussion, and fraught with many assumptions about motivations and "the way they are . . . ." Huh?

I see what you're saying Robert, but you're still making a huge generalization that all women worldwide desperately care about their looks along with a wide variety of other generalizations that just simply aren't true. I think you're really stretching out the Word and filling in the gaps with your own ideologies. Regardless, I'm going to have to agree with Jim here.

I'm not even sure of the importance of this topic...


Robert Byers said:

Women were created for eternality with a particular husband.

Therefore they are innately needed HIS acceptance of their FEMALE identity part of them. nOt their soul but their female portion of their identity.

In a fallen world their husbands fail to satisfy as relationship is broken by the curse.

So women , unknowingly, strive to gain the missing acceptance for their femininity by dolling up for everyone.

tHey do it for other women and into old age.

its not about beauty but about femininity which manifests itself in looks. they must look feminine to be accepted as feminine.

men do not do it with the same intent or energy whatsoever. women are defined by it.

Other cultures also show this. if not its only because the culture doesn't reward the women for their feminine looks.

Yet upon coming to another nation they would follow suit passionately.

Its all about why women so desperately care about their looks even when not attractive.

its not about beauty but rather shows the need for acceptance in their identity. 

Yet it was for their husbands, not men, that this impulse was to be satisfied.

They were made for their husbands and so need acceptance on why they exist.

 optherwise they would just be more men.

The first marriage was God's choice for Adam. Eve was perfect. From looks to personality. She was made for Adam because something was missing in his life. Adam saw her as part of himself, one body and named her as such. Its being commented on, that the significance of the rib is to illustrate that she was to be close to his heart, not from the head to show ruler-ship over him, nor from the feet to be ruled by him, but side by side perfectly united.

The blame culture started when the serpent destroyed their relationship with God and each other. I wouldn't mix up the behaviour of women after the fall with the woman of God's original intentions.



Matthew Parker said:

I see what you're saying Robert, but you're still making a huge generalization that all women worldwide desperately care about their looks along with a wide variety of other generalizations that just simply aren't true. I think you're really stretching out the Word and filling in the gaps with your own ideologies. Regardless, I'm going to have to agree with Jim here.

I'm not even sure of the importance of this topic...


Robert Byers said:

Women were created for eternality with a particular husband.

Therefore they are innately needed HIS acceptance of their FEMALE identity part of them. nOt their soul but their female portion of their identity.

In a fallen world their husbands fail to satisfy as relationship is broken by the curse.

So women , unknowingly, strive to gain the missing acceptance for their femininity by dolling up for everyone.

tHey do it for other women and into old age.

its not about beauty but about femininity which manifests itself in looks. they must look feminine to be accepted as feminine.

men do not do it with the same intent or energy whatsoever. women are defined by it.

Other cultures also show this. if not its only because the culture doesn't reward the women for their feminine looks.

Yet upon coming to another nation they would follow suit passionately.

Its all about why women so desperately care about their looks even when not attractive.

its not about beauty but rather shows the need for acceptance in their identity. 

Yet it was for their husbands, not men, that this impulse was to be satisfied.

They were made for their husbands and so need acceptance on why they exist.

 optherwise they would just be more men.

desperate isn't the word. however its about presentation of femininity and not beauty.

By jewels, clothes, make up, hair, and so all women have it on their mind and judge other women.

Even the most poor. 

It just shows the origins of strange behaviours can be found in genesis.

the original intent on hearts is corrupted by the fall.

Women seek , in heart, the original plan of acceptance by their husbands based on their identity. This because they were made, not their souls, for men and feel it.

They are meant to help their husband and not seek their own destiny.

In the fallen world this results in a zealous desire to gain acceptance on looks. 



Donald Smith said:

The first marriage was God's choice for Adam. Eve was perfect. From looks to personality. She was made for Adam because something was missing in his life. Adam saw her as part of himself, one body and named her as such. Its being commented on, that the significance of the rib is to illustrate that she was to be close to his heart, not from the head to show ruler-ship over him, nor from the feet to be ruled by him, but side by side perfectly united.

The blame culture started when the serpent destroyed their relationship with God and each other. I wouldn't mix up the behaviour of women after the fall with the woman of God's original intentions.

I read that somewhere but disagree.

Its just guessing.

I guess instead the rib was actually a reproductive organ.

Adam originally could self reproduce and so explain his surprise at finding a mating mate.

He was not suspicious of a female being out there for him, despite seeing male/female creatures, because, I SPECULATE, he could self reproduce.

So the rib removed was not a rib but a reproductive organ around which the female was made.

I seriously don't know what to say here. *Speechless*



Ruby Faraday said:

I seriously don't know what to say here. *Speechless*

Saying this qualifies as saying something.

Why am i wrong or very wrong?

Its analysis with biblical boundaries.

Talk to me . I;m a decent Canadian boy.

There are many errors here that I will attempt to address gently.

ALL people, be they men or women often have a drive to seek acceptance of some sort.  It is the h*** within us left by the fall that seeks relationships that craves acceptance.  Men desires acceptance of their masculinity from women.  Women desire acceptance of their beauty from men.  It's not one sided.

However it is woefully misplaced.  Each gender wrongly desires acceptance because we are trying to fill a h*** from a severed relationship with God.  It is from God that we ought to be deriving acceptance and our identity from.

This really has nothing to do with physical beauty.  Physical beauty is really a mask for the deeper issues.  The Bible is clear that women should be more concerned with their inward beauty than that which is outside.  So, it can easily be argued that the preoccupation with external beauty is a tool of the Adversary to get us to focus on things that are not what we should be actually focusing on.  The desire of many women to be accepted as beautiful by men is part of this lie the Adversary promotes.

 

Two good books that address much of this issue are Wild At Heart by John Eldredge (on men) and Captivating by Stasi and John Eldgredge (on women).  Good, enlightening reads that I believe are very biblically based and sound and at times painfully but liberatingly pierce to the heart of the gender issues.

Regarding Adam's "rib" actually being a sexual organ is baseless and offensive.  It, in many ways lowers women to nothing more than created sex objects for men.  The Hebrew is very clear that Eve was made out of what was taken "from Adam's side" we assume this is a rib bone, but we don't have confirmation of it.  There are many medical reasons why a rib bone would make sense, but again it is merely assumption that it was in fact a rib.  But it is highly doubtful that in any form Adam had a sex organ of any sort embedded in or protruding from his side.

To say that Adam must have been asexual is an insult to God.  God knew what he was doing and had a plan.  Eve was NOT an after thought.  God didn't make Adam, figured his work was done, watch the guy for a bit, and then realized that he had "forgotten" something.  No.... God had Eve purposefully in mind from the beginning!  There would have been no need to create Adam as an asexual being who could reproduce on its own.  Adam was completely male with nothing added and nothing missing except for Eve who would complete him.

It is my belief that God wanted Adam to realize that he was alone and that woman was something special, far above and beyond the animals and that no animal, no thing, nothing could ever replace the void Adam had except for her.  If only men had realized this through the ages.  And this is not to say that NOW women can fill that void in its entirety for the biggest part of the void within men (and within women) has to be filled and can only be filled by God.

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