Before the beginning there was only God.
The question is whether Genesis 1:1, and the week that ensued - the question is whether or not this is THE beginning which is spoken of throughout the Scripture. Is the beginning of Genesis One, and the whole chapter - is that beginning the time frame of the creation of Adam?
Is this the same "Beginning" that is mentioned quite a few times throughout Scripture?
Or is there another beginning? I think not. Can anyone provide scriptural support for the notion of some other, earlier beginning than THE beginning that is referenced by Jesus?
If Genesis chapter Five does not tell us WHEN the beginning was, then what is the reason for all the years and capacity for simple math to lead us to the precise date of the Flood AM?

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Hi Aaron,

Genesis 1:14-19 (NKJV)

"Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to  rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

God made the luminaries in the sky (stars, planets, moons, etc.) and then made two great lights (our sun and moon) to give light on the earth during day and night respectively.

Aaron Lewis said:

Hi Charles,

Charles Jones said:

Aaron, 
Jim is right.

Aaron: "All things that exist in this universe other than the stars, suns, moons and planets dead or alive was created after Genesis 1:1."

Jim: "The above statement is incorrect."

The luminaries in space (sun, moon, stars, planets, etc) were created on Day Four.

 

Where does the Bible say the sun, moon, stars, planets, etc was created on the fourth day?

 

God Bless,

 

Aaron

Hi Charles,



Charles Jones said:

Aaron,

I can't speak for Jim, but why couldn't darkness have been created in Genesis 1:1 with the heavens and the earth? It seems the earth was created with darkness on the face of the deep in verse 1, and is described in verse 2. The same can be said about the deep itself and the waters, so I see no problem with darkness preceding light.

 

Do you believe the Bible?

 

If you do, you will have to go with light existing before darkness.

 

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

 

The heavens and the earth began to exist in Genesis 1:1.

God defines DAY as a light period as He called the light DAY.  God also called the light period and the following dark period as DAY.

 

Observation from Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

 

The earth existed prior to Genesis 1:2.

 

Now when was the earth 'bra' (ברא) created?

We know it was prior to the darkness found in Genesis 1:2.

 

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

 

This verse says that the earth was created in a light period or a light period and a dark period.  Since it existed at the dark period found in Genesis 1:2 Genesis 1:1 had to take place in a light period according to God's definition of a DAY.

 

DAY one ended with the morning of the light period following the dark period of Genesis 1:2.

 

There are many things in the history/generations that took place in the DAY the earth was created.  They are found following Genesis 2:4 as all the generations/history of families in the Bible follow the verse saying, "These are the generations of (insert name)".

 

God Bless,

I'm a bit confused. Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding you. 

"God also called the light period and the following dark period as DAY."

Again, isn't it the other way around?

"The earth existed prior to Genesis 1:2. Now when was the earth 'bra' (ברא) created? We know it was prior to the darkness found in Genesis 1:2."

Yes, the earth was created in Genesis 1:1. How do we know the darkness was not created with the earth in Gen 1:1? We are not told it was created in Gen 1:2, but as you worded it, it is found in verse 2. Verse 2 is only the first time we hear about it.

"DAY one ended with the morning of the light period following the dark period of Genesis 1:2."

You state here Day 1 ended with a light period following a dark period. I agree. But you have been saying a day is light followed by darkness. Are you saying here that the first day was light, then dark, then light?

"There are many things in the history/generations that took place in the DAY the earth was created.  They are found following Genesis 2:4 as all the generations/history of families in the Bible follow the verse saying, "These are the generations of (insert name)"."

Where does the Bible say that the generations of any human or living earthly thing took place on the day the earth was created (Day 1)? The first thing to be created that we consider life (plants) was created on Day 3. Humans were not created until Day 5.



Aaron Lewis said:

Hi Charles,



Charles Jones said:

Aaron,

I can't speak for Jim, but why couldn't darkness have been created in Genesis 1:1 with the heavens and the earth? It seems the earth was created with darkness on the face of the deep in verse 1, and is described in verse 2. The same can be said about the deep itself and the waters, so I see no problem with darkness preceding light.

 

Do you believe the Bible?

 

If you do, you will have to go with light existing before darkness.

 

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Genesis 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

 

The heavens and the earth began to exist in Genesis 1:1.

God defines DAY as a light period as He called the light DAY.  God also called the light period and the following dark period as DAY.

 

Observation from Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

 

The earth existed prior to Genesis 1:2.

 

Now when was the earth 'bra' (ברא) created?

We know it was prior to the darkness found in Genesis 1:2.

 

Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

 

This verse says that the earth was created in a light period or a light period and a dark period.  Since it existed at the dark period found in Genesis 1:2 Genesis 1:1 had to take place in a light period according to God's definition of a DAY.

 

DAY one ended with the morning of the light period following the dark period of Genesis 1:2.

 

There are many things in the history/generations that took place in the DAY the earth was created.  They are found following Genesis 2:4 as all the generations/history of families in the Bible follow the verse saying, "These are the generations of (insert name)".

 

God Bless,

Here is an example of Aaron making a careful distinction of usage and vocabulary, but doing so selectively.
Aaron Lewis said:

Where does the Bible say the sun, moon, stars, planets, etc was created on the fourth day?

Here he is arguing that since the word "create" was not used, that this means they were not created on that day four (v. 14). However he does not apply the same rule to Job 38, where insists on inserting the word "CREATE" where it does not occur. In promoting the view that the stars, the moon, and the sun began to exist PRIOR to day four, our brother is again affirming that he is not a friend to the biblical creationism embraced by us here at Creation Conversations.

He thinks that his quirky absolutism about his selective application of grammar and vocabulary usage is the only correct reading of the Sacred Text.

In some cases he likes to accept HaYaH as meaning "existence or being." But he does not accept this as the meaning in the several occurrences of the phase pattern, "And God began to say, Let this or that begin to be, and this or that began to be" (Gen. 1:3, 6, 14, 15). Here he prefers to assign the meaning "APPEAR" to the basic verb of being - HaYaH. However, the author and the Author and the compiler of the book of Genesis had a perfectly fine choice of vocabulary that would have very clearly expressed the idea of something "appearing" that had previously been brought into existence.

This language was employed in the appearance of dry land, where the verb Ra'aH is used, and this verb does definitively mean "Appear," or "Be Seen," or "Become Visible." Here it does refer to a substance or entity which had been previously brought into existence out of nothing, or "Created."

Likewise, the earth as dry land was not "created" or "brought into existence" on day three; and so it is with the Seas - they were not created on day three, but the already existing waters were "gathered together" and then called "Seas."

Further, Aaron seems to reject the idea that the usage of `Asah can be parallel to the sense of BaRa' as including the meaning "brought into existence out of nothing." And an examination of biblical usage confirms the fact that when the subject of the verb is GOD (or any term identifying Deity), that is whenever God is the one performing the action of "Creation," it is always a "bringing into existence out of nothing." The verb `Asah can have the idea of "shaping and forming something that was pre-existing," but that is NOT the required meaning. `Asah can also including bringing something into existence out of nothing, especially when used in parallel with Bara', and especially when the thing made is elsewhere in Scripture confirmed to have been brought into existence out of nothing.

The material objects of the heavens - those with the purposes defined in verses 15-18, were brought into existence, caused to be, and began to be on day four. They were created as the Scripture says elsewhere - that is how they came into being. AND WHEN this took place is specified as day four in our simple and inspired narrative.

Hi Charles,

What you quoted does not say anything about the lights beginning to exist. 

 

Had Moses been referring to the light beginning to exist he would have used the Hebrew word ברא which is used with God as the subject which refers to the beginning to exist of entities.  It was used in Genesis 1:1, (heavens and earth) 21, (special sea creature) and 27 (mankind).

 

Those are the only times ברא is used with God as the subject in Genesis chapter 1 and 2.

The Hebrew word  is a verb which is a root word.  It is not derived from another word.

 

The Hebrew word ברא that is create does not exist in the text you quoted. 

 

The Hebrew word יהי does exist in the text you quoted as it does in 49 other times in 48 verses in the Hebrew text.  The only ones that are said to have anything to do with something beginning to exist is Genesis 1:3, 6, 14.  It is derived from the Hebrew verb היה which is the same word used where God told Moses "I AM THAT I AM".  The 'I AM' is translated from היה which mean exist if we use the Bibles definition.  Because God does exist that He exists.  God is eternal.

 

Now the Hebrew word ויעש which is translated 'and made' in Genesis 1:16 is derived from the Hebrew root word עשה which means 1) to do, work, make, produce 

Go back to Genesis 1:2 and examine exactly what the status of the earth existed in.

 

So you have not presented any information that the sun, moon, stars and planets, etc was created in the text you presented.

 

I will agree that God did some work in the text you presented but He did not create anything.

 

Everything that God created in the universe was created in Genesis 1:1, 1:21 and 1:27.  Those are the only creation events in Genesis chapter 1 and 2.  There was a lot of work done in Genesis chapter 2 and a lot of work done in chapter 1  but all creation events of Genesis are recorded in the three verses referenced above.

 

God Bless,

 

Aaron

 

Charles Jones said:

Hi Aaron,

Genesis 1:14-19 (NKJV)

"Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to  rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

God made the luminaries in the sky (stars, planets, moons, etc.) and then made two great lights (our sun and moon) to give light on the earth during day and night respectively.

Aaron Lewis said:

Hi Charles,

Charles Jones said:

Aaron, 
Jim is right.

Aaron: "All things that exist in this universe other than the stars, suns, moons and planets dead or alive was created after Genesis 1:1."

Jim: "The above statement is incorrect."

The luminaries in space (sun, moon, stars, planets, etc) were created on Day Four.

 

Where does the Bible say the sun, moon, stars, planets, etc was created on the fourth day?

 

God Bless,

 

Aaron

Aaron Lewis said:

Do you believe the Bible? If you do, you will have to go with light existing before darkness.
No, we do not not find that light existed before darkness. This is your error Aaron, and it is not what the Bible states. God created the darkness, and it had to be created at some point prior to its existence in verse two. DARKNESS WAS (v. 2). Therefore it had been brought into existence before verse two.
Light "began to be" a bit later, in the middle of day one, when God said, "Let light begin to be, and light BEGAN TO BE" (v. 3). You do believe the Bible Aaron, but apparently you misread this verse.
Follow along closely in your Bible, any language or translation would be fine.
  1. Darkness had been created and existed from the moment of beginning and DARKNESS WAS upon the face of the deep (v. 2).
  2. Light began to exist, when God said, "Let Light BEGIN to be" (v. 3).
  3. God then formed the light and organized it, in that He "divided the light from the [already exiting] darkness" (v. 4).
  4. Then God announced what constitutes a day (as would be followed through the remainder of the six days of origins) - EVENING and [then] MORNING were Day One.
  5. AND God who commanded the [spiritual] light to shine out of darkness has shined in our hearts.
  6. Likewise darkness was first, then God said, "Let begin to be." He commanded and light began to be.

Aaron continues: Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

This verse says that the earth was created in a light period or a light period and a dark period.

NO, this verse (2:4) does not say what you have declared. I am surprised that such a stickler for precision would so horribly misread the text! Here, the word day (yom) is used idiomatically. AND no where does the Bible say that anything was created in a "light period and a dark period" or in a light period followed by a dark period. Breathe in, breathe out. Read it again. NO WHERE do we see a day described as Light followed by darkness. In the six days of Genesis, it is always evening and morning that constitute a day. And so it is in all the subsequent history of Israel, even unto the present day.

Aaron continues:

There are many things in the history/generations that took place in the DAY the earth was created.  They are found following Genesis 2:4 as all the generations/history of families in the Bible follow the verse saying, "These are the generations of (insert name)."

I think Aaron is pretty sure that all the things described in chapter two (and maybe chapter three as well), all of them took place on the day the earth was created (Gen. 1:1 = All the events of chapter 2). Then the earth was judged or plunged into darkness (v. 2). After this God caused the light to appear again and the rest of verses talk about something subsequent to the act mentioned in 2:4.

Other scholars point out that titles in Scripture are often subscripts. Creationist writers also have differing views as to the sense of meaning in the word "Toledoth" which appears as some form of a division and title throughout Genesis (11 times). In every case the narrative that follows the title is a description of what FOLLOWED the prior origin of the named ancestor.

For example:

The book of the generations of Adam (5:1) is about what came out of Adam, the immediate descendents of Adam.

These are the generations of Noah (6:9) describes what took place AFTER a prior origin of Noah (5:28-31).

These are the generations of the sons of Noah, is not about those three, but it is more about those who followed, about the descendents "born to them after the Flood, . . . " and SO ON.

Aaron,

I don't have knowledge in the Hebrew language, so these questions may seem slightly ignorant. How else would the word that is translated in English, "made", be translated? If it is still "made", then it is (especially with the context) synonymous with "created". How else would the phrase that is translated in English, "Let there be", be translated? If it is still, "Let there be", then why would this phrase be used unless the thing following the phrase had not been previously? If (for the sake of argument) the luminaries had existed prior to the time referenced in this passage, where would they have been? Certainly not in the universe. It is only in this passage that they are put* in the firmament of the heavens.

*That is not to say that they were created and then moved. I think, and I could be wrong, that the passage is stating that God made the luminaries, and, "God set them in the firmament of the heavens" is a specification of where they were made.

Aaron Lewis said:

Hi Charles,

What you quoted does not say anything about the lights beginning to exist. 

 

Had Moses been referring to the light beginning to exist he would have used the Hebrew word ברא which is used with God as the subject which refers to the beginning to exist of entities.  It was used in Genesis 1:1, (heavens and earth) 21, (special sea creature) and 27 (mankind).

 

Those are the only times ברא is used with God as the subject in Genesis chapter 1 and 2.

The Hebrew word  is a verb which is a root word.  It is not derived from another word.

 

The Hebrew word ברא that is create does not exist in the text you quoted. 

 

The Hebrew word יהי does exist in the text you quoted as it does in 49 other times in 48 verses in the Hebrew text.  The only ones that are said to have anything to do with something beginning to exist is Genesis 1:3, 6, 14.  It is derived from the Hebrew verb היה which is the same word used where God told Moses "I AM THAT I AM".  The 'I AM' is translated from היה which mean exist if we use the Bibles definition.  Because God does exist that He exists.  God is eternal.

 

Now the Hebrew word ויעש which is translated 'and made' in Genesis 1:16 is derived from the Hebrew root word עשה which means 1) to do, work, make, produce 

Go back to Genesis 1:2 and examine exactly what the status of the earth existed in.

 

So you have not presented any information that the sun, moon, stars and planets, etc was created in the text you presented.

 

I will agree that God did some work in the text you presented but He did not create anything.

 

Everything that God created in the universe was created in Genesis 1:1, 1:21 and 1:27.  Those are the only creation events in Genesis chapter 1 and 2.  There was a lot of work done in Genesis chapter 2 and a lot of work done in chapter 1  but all creation events of Genesis are recorded in the three verses referenced above.

 

God Bless,

 

Aaron

 

Charles Jones said:

Hi Aaron,

Genesis 1:14-19 (NKJV)

"Then God said, “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heavens to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs and seasons, and for days and years; 15 and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also. 17 God set them in the firmament of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and to  rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 So the evening and the morning were the fourth day."

God made the luminaries in the sky (stars, planets, moons, etc.) and then made two great lights (our sun and moon) to give light on the earth during day and night respectively.

Aaron Lewis said:

Hi Charles,

Charles Jones said:

Aaron, 
Jim is right.

Aaron: "All things that exist in this universe other than the stars, suns, moons and planets dead or alive was created after Genesis 1:1."

Jim: "The above statement is incorrect."

The luminaries in space (sun, moon, stars, planets, etc) were created on Day Four.

 

Where does the Bible say the sun, moon, stars, planets, etc was created on the fourth day?

 

God Bless,

 

Aaron

Hi Jim,

Jim Brenneman said:

Discussion with this individual is somewhat futile, since he does not share our position on biblical authority and hermeneutics. He does not embrace and affirm the creationism that is part of the Statement of Faith here. Nevertheless we should continue to answer his disjointed questions as much as possible, as much as lieth with, if God peradventure will give him repentance to the acknowledging of the Truth.

Aaron Lewis said:

OK so where does the throne of God exist?

Answer: At the present time, the heavens are God's throne. And also His throne is in our hearts. And also His throne is said to be in the heavens. He created the heavens and He created His throne, as place to appear seated in majesty and glory to rule over His creation.

Aaron asked:

Does it exist in the heaven of Genesis 1:8?

God reigns in that heaven, but the heaven of v. 8 is in my understanding that which is in immediate contact with our globe, and was originally an expanse between the waters above and the waters beneath, and the face of this heaven is the place where the birds would fly, and was the expanse in which the stars that were made on day four would appear. It is unlikely that this heavens of the earth is the place of God's throne, as if God needs a place.

Aaron asked:

Or does it exist in the heaven that begins with the upper edge of the heaven of Genesis 1:8 and end with the outer edge of the universe? Or does it exist in the third heaven that Paul writes about a man visiting?

The problem with this question is again the use of the word "OR," which fails to grasp that God is eternal and infinite and God is Spirit and cannot be confined to a particular place. Actually we could answer that trick question with a wise answer: YES.

So Jesus is roaming around the universe while seated at the right hand of God the Father making intercession for the sins of mankind and the angels are worshiping God.

 
 
Mark 16:19

So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Rom. 8:24   Who [is] he that condemneth? [It is] Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even a the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 

Heb. 7:25  

Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

Rev. 7:11  

And all the angels stood round about the throne, and [about] the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

So my question was and is where does all this activity take place?  Does it take place in our universe or does it take place in the third heaven Paul talked about?

 

If it takes place in our universe then God created the third heaven inside of the second heaven that was created in Genesis 1:1.

 

You are the one claiming to believe the Bible and telling me I do not believe the Bible.

 

So where is the activity described in the verses above taking place at present?

 

God Bless,

 

Aaron

I thought you said Jesus roams about the universe as dark energy.
 
Aaron Lewis said:


 

So Jesus is roaming around the universe while seated at the right hand of God the Father making intercession for the sins of mankind and the angels are worshiping God.

 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Aaron Lewis said:

So Jesus is roaming around the universe while seated at the right hand of God the Father making intercession for the sins of mankind and the angels are worshiping God.
Here again we see Aaron holding to a god who is like man, to a god that he has imagined to have a form and nature that is like unto created things, the mistake in thinking that Paul warns against as the habit of those who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.
God is Spirit. Jesus is in all the universe, upholding all things by the word of His power. He is Omnipotent. He is Omniscient and His eyes run to and fro throughout the whole universe to show himself strong on the behalf of those whose hearts are perfect toward Him. He is Omnipresent as well, and wherever two or three are gathered together in His name, there He is in the midst of them.
This absolute rule of God over all that He has created is what it means for Him to be enthroned on high. Yes He does appear on a throne, at the right hand of the Father, but the heaven of heavens cannot contain Him!
Aaron said:

You are the one claiming to believe the Bible and telling me I do not believe the Bible.

No, my fine friend. You are the one who is always asking whether or not we believe in the Bible. I merely quoted your own words. I have not said that you "do not believe" the Bible. I have however said that you misread it and apply rules of grammar selectively and you pick and choose when you will limit the meaning and usage of particular words of Hebrew vocabulary.

You certainly do not concur with our statement of faith here at creation conversations, and you a self-avowed opponent of mainstream creationism.

 

Hi Jim,

Jim Brenneman said:

Aaron Lewis said:

Are you saying God created the heaven that He resides in was created in Genesis 1:1?

 NO. You are incorrectly assuming that God needs a place to dwell. That is unscriptural.

 

My assumption is that God exists.  In that God is eternal.

 

Since God exists He has to exist in existence somewhere.

 

The only other alternative is that everything that exists other than God exists inside of God.

 

God Bless,

Hi Jim,

Jim Brenneman said:

Aaron Lewis said:

1 John 1:5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

That verse says God is light.

Revelation 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Do you disagree that both of those scriptures says that God is light?

Jim responds:

NO.

Do you disagree that there will be no need for the sun for the new heavens and the new earth to have light?

NO.

The Scripture says that Light began to be. And the Lord says, "I form the light."

Actually the Hebrew text says:

First word: "and he is saying"

Second word: "Elohim"

Third word:  "he shall become"

Fourth word: "light"

Fifth word: "and he is becoming"

Sixth word: "light".

 

It says absolutely nothing about light beginning to exist.

 

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

 

Pay close attention to Isaiah using two different verbs to describe these events.

 

God (ytsr) did some work on the light.

God (bra) caused darkness to begin to exist.

God (ytsr) did some work on peace.

God (bra) caused evil to begin to exist.

 

There is nothing there to state God (bra) created light where no light existed.

Do you disagree that light began to be, and that God formed it? Do you disagree that light began to be when the Lord God said, "Let light begin to be?"

Light did not begin to exist in Genesis 1:3, but God did do some work on light.

God did not say "Let light begin to be".  That is your assumption unsupported by the Hebrew text.

The Scripture says that Jesus is the Lamb.

Do you disagree that Jesus is the Lamb?

I believe what the Bible says.

John the Baptist called Jesus the Lamb of God.  John 1:29, 36.

In Acts 8:32 Jesus is compared to a lamb being slaughtered.  The lamb will not open his mouth when you slit his throat.

Peter compared Jesus shed blood to that of the sacrificial lamb of the law having to be without spot or blemish.1 Pet. 1:19.

The Scripture says that Jesus is bread.

Do you disagree that Jesus is bread?

As you said,

If you disagree please explain your reasoning.

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

6:30 They said therefore unto him, What sign shewest thou then, that we may see, and believe thee? what dost thou work?

6:31 Our fathers did eat manna in the desert; as it is written, He gave them bread from heaven to eat.

6:32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.

6:33 For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world.

6:34 Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread.

6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Jesus said He was the bread of life. 

 

He was talking to people that had just told Him that their fathers had been fed with bread from heaven so they was referring to the bread that sustained their fathers in the wilderness.

 

Jesus was referring to Himself as the (bread) sustainer of life for mankind.

 

Without Jesus there is no life only death.

 

Colossians 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

 

Everything is held together by the power of Jesus Christ.  Without Him nothing exists.

 

God Bless,

 

Aaron

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Creation Conversations 2018

What's new @ CC for 2018? 

Creation networking and much more in store for Creation Conversation Members. You'll not want to miss this new year!

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