Christian Anthropologists

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Christian Anthropologists

Here is a group for anyone interested in anthropology and its near kin.  Professional, amateur, everyone is welcome with only one prerequisite: Biblical Christianity.

Members: 23
Latest Activity: May 15, 2016

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Musing on our ancestors: 5 Replies

Below is information on our ancestors from two different authors, it is my humble opinion that erectus, neanderthals and others are all h*** sapiens. Apparently some authors believe that erectus…Continue

Started by Lou Hamby. Last reply by David Thomas Posey Dec 29, 2015.

Neanderthals in hot water 1 Reply

Don't miss another fun finding in this…Continue

Started by David Thomas Posey. Last reply by Jim Brenneman Oct 6, 2015.

Old Viking Tricks? 2 Replies

The Vikings had a few tricks that would have been useful to any sailor beforethe invention of GPS. The sagas mention “sun-stones” that helped navigatorstell which direction the sun was in even in…Continue

Tags: navigation, raven, Noah, viking

Started by Steven Posey. Last reply by Steven Posey Apr 18, 2014.

Rebuilding the World: post-flood technology 16 Replies

Was it a dark age or revolution? Obviouslyancient man was very smart and capable of building outstanding monuments.However, it is doubtful that all of the pre-flood technology survived. Thenwhen the…Continue

Tags: flood, technology, Babel, building, metal

Started by Steven Posey. Last reply by David Thomas Posey Mar 12, 2014.

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Comment by James (Jim) Brenneman on December 12, 2013 at 8:06am
It is best to create new discussions in the forum area of this page, rather than on this mixed comment wall.
I think one of the strongest answers is to point out the unreliability of the rate-based dating methods.
Comment by Carolyn Reeves on December 11, 2013 at 10:01pm

Here's the reason why I brought up this topic. I have a good friend who genuinely believes the Bible is God's Word.  She attends a Christian church where solid, Biblical lessons are taught from Genesis on Creation, but there is still a level of confusion in the congregation about what to do with articles claiming 400,000 year old humans have been discovered.  A number of members prefer to take the compromise route of bending Scripture to accommodate cave men and the slow gradual evolution of humans. I'd like for someone to articulate the problems of trying to make the evolution of humans fit with Scripture, as well as post some easy to understand information about why Christians should be skeptical of these kinds of claims. Has anyone had any experience dealing with Christian churches where members are divided about the existence of subhuman ancestors. Do claims like this create barriers to the Gospel?    

Comment by Steven Posey on December 5, 2013 at 6:37pm

Hi Professor Reeves, this is a great place for such a discussion and I hope Christians become knowledgeable about such topics; there are so many recent developments and discoveries. Sometimes I find it bewildering but interesting at the same time. To me, the key is dating methods and presuppositions about science and man's history but I think we can do better (more detailed) later.    

Comment by Carolyn Reeves on December 5, 2013 at 6:18pm

I hope this is an appropriate place for this question.  A friend sent me a link to an article about a group of "early humans" and asked what I thought about the article. She genuinely wants to know how a Bible believer should respond to this kind of material.  Could anyone help me on this?   The article can be found at: http://www.google.com/gwt/x?u=http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/05/sci...

Thanks in advance!

 

Comment by Carolyn Reeves on October 7, 2012 at 10:34pm

Be sure to see the interview with Jim Brenneman about Neanderthals on www.undergroundparadigm.com.  Good information!

Comment by Robert Driskell on July 8, 2012 at 2:59pm

Jim,

I thank you so much.  I have The Genesis Flood and The Early Earth.  I will see if I can grab the others.  I have read The Puzzle of Ancient Man by Don Chittick (I assume that's who we are talking about) and found it absolutely fascinating.  I am always amazed at how young earth creation dovetails so perfectly with what the Bible says AND what we observe in nature.  Thanks Jim.

Yours in Christ,

Robert

Comment by James (Jim) Brenneman on July 6, 2012 at 4:09pm

Snelling: Earth's Catastrophic Past

Whitcomb: The World That Perished

Whitcomb: The Early Earth

Whitcomb and Morris: The Genesis Flood

Chitticick on ancient technology: http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/products-by-keyword.asp...

Oard on Immediate Post-Flood Culture and Dispersion and Weather several publications: http://www.answersingenesis.org/search/?q=Oard&site=AIGstore

Comment by Robert Driskell on July 6, 2012 at 3:42pm

Jim,

What books can you recommend for study of the Genesis time period from the perspective of a literal interpretation of the Bible?  I have recently been reading your comments and find myself in agreement.  Just wondered what authors and books you would recommend.

Yours in Christ,

Robert

Comment by James (Jim) Brenneman on January 3, 2012 at 5:15pm

Neolithic Culture is not an age, but a practice of those to whom metals are unavailable, or for whom metallurgy is unknown or not recalled (Job 30:1-8).

The children of Moses received for circumcision with a STONE, even though the culture of his homeland (Egypt) was already well advanced (Ex. 4:25)!

Add to that people today who live in penthouse apartments and drive Porsches also use stone tipped arrows for hunting. Stone technology is not a predecessor to "advanced" culture. Never was. Not according to the Bible.

Comment by James (Jim) Brenneman on January 3, 2012 at 5:07pm

Lou, what Thomas and I are trying to explain is that the worldly view that neolithic is an "age" prior to the building of pyramids and other monumental structures is incorrect. Stone survival practices are taught by special ops military. You can't build a smelting operation while on the move, but you can find knappable materials readily and make them sharp and form deadly weapons and useful tools.

While neolithic culture is found in layers around the world, nevertheless, like "living fossils," the culture and technology persists. It was not a stage or age prior to the technology of Tubal-Cain and Noah and Babel and Egypt and Babylon, rather it was a system that arose out of necessity for those who lacked the setting to smelt and farm and build. And as the Bible reveals, the cave dwellers were those who were in flight, outcasts, refugees, and those driven from society. It was NOT an earlier stage in human development, but rather a digression and degeneration from the high levels of technology that arose in the days long before the Flood.

You still talk about the Sophistication of Noah and the Egyptians as if it were preceded by a gradual process of rising out of neolithic practices, as if these must be less advanced, more primitive, earlier, older, and prior to Egypt. Wrong.

And now, moving from biology and paleontology, you come to anthropology and again endeavor to interpret Scripture based on the methods and finds of the science of archaeology.

You must START with Scripture and let it speak. The Flood was global, and no matter how much you feel the need to revise that "from an archeological position," the simple truth of Scripture is that everyone was killed in the Flood, except the family on the Ark. After the Flood all subsequent peoples and cultures descended from these three sons.

I don't mean to "SEEM TO BE PAINTING" anything. The timeline is clear. Flood was about 4500 years ago, and from the three sons of Noah all peoples and cultures of the earth arose. That is what the Bible say, not some mysterious book like Glenn refers to, nor based on adding up some figures according to an obscure mystical numerological formula.

All were destroyed except "eight souls," and all subsequent humanity is descended from the three sons of Noah.

The problem is that you say you want support "from Scripture," but you constantly argue against the plain sense of Scripture "in the light of science" whether it be biology, geology, palaeontology, or now anthropology/archaeology.

Then you said:

To which I say, "HUH?" The evidence of Scripture, the plain statements of Scripture make it clear that we are all descended from the families of Noah's three sons. There were no survivors on the "isles of the nations." Those populations themselves derived from those selfsame sons of Noah.

neolithic peoples as being interspersed during this time?   What makes you so sure that your right about this?

Neolithic is not an age, nor an era, nor some preliminary developmental stage in the rise of human civilization. That is a secular falsehood which Bible-believers reject based on Genesis Four. The evidence is in the fact that the neolithic, or Lithicpractices and lifestylecontinues and persists throughout time and around the world wherever there are people with adequate intelligence and adaptability to implement that innovative technology of improvisation in the wild. Some are satisfied with it and have not desire or inclination to go back to the higher levels of technology of their predecessors.

Just like some people today continue to enjoy hunting with "primitive" weapons, or living in wild natural structures and settings, so it happened with some who left the high levels of technology at Babel. They did not take it with them, or when they got to their new homes their descendents were unable to recall it, but lived on the improvisational technologies they employed in the years and generations of their migration from Babel.

Start with the Bible and its simple narrative and let the sciences conform to that inerrant truth rather than trying to reinterpret the Bible to fit with the fallible conclusions of secular science.

 

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