Why so many layers in a single flood event?
Lou asked how can all these layers come from a single event. I think one reason this question comes up is that we tend to think of the flood as like filling up a bath tub with some sand in it, stirring the sand around in the water, then letting the sand settle and the draining the water. that would leave a record a single event.
I find this idea of the flood very simplistic. Instead I think of the flood as a series of thousands of cataclysmic events each of which has left a record of its effects in the geologic record. And these events are not necessarily global in effect. many are local.
I envision the flood to have been precipitated by a "storm" of asteroid impacts, (over 170 impact structures have been located so far on the continents in flood sediments) of all sizes over a period of the first 150 days of the flood. Each asteroid impact would cause different levels of destruction and deposition according to it's kinetic energy. The most immediate effects would be extreme destruction within the "death zone" of the impact. There would be impact-quake effects. large quantities of water vapor, rock vapor, liquid water would be injected into and above the atmosphere. Rock fragments of all sizes would be thrown around in all directions. Besides massively disrupting the atmosphere with the atomic sized explosions which would set in motion massive evaporation and associated condensation and precipitation, the impact ejected water and vapor would cascade down in cataracts on a global scale and meta-hurricane wind speeds. While rains would cause flooding of rivers, the most massive destruction would be caused by thousands of impact tsunami, some up to 3 kilometers high, which would invade the continents from every direction. Each tsunami would cause its own destruction and deposition as it moves inland and across continents. Add to this the tidal effects of the moon on the flooding waters which would wax and wane as the tides move at jet plane speeds around the globe. And then the atmosphere, which had all but been nearly destroyed by hundreds if not thousands of impact explosions would struggle to seek equilibrium again and the climate of the world would adjust to new conditions brought on by the catastrophe.
That is a rather simplified version of what I believe happened during the flood. Each event would cause a record to be left in the sedimentary deposits. And thus we get what we see in the above photo.
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Permalink Reply by Allen Roy on -
Coal is not my forte. I am studying paleontology for my BS--specifically dinosaurs. Much of the time AiG provides many insights to various topics. I believe that the entire global pre-flood climate was tropical to sub-tropical (using our parlance). The earth was likely covered with several times more vege-mass than today. So, I see no problem with there being enough material which could then become today's coal deposits, that had been buried by by the thousands of cataclysmic events of the Flood.
Flood Catastrophists are developing flood models to explain the evidences found in the geologic records. So far, flood modeling is in it's infant state. There are several different flood models on the table and it will take many many years before some semblance of consensus to begin to show. Oard and I have competing flood models. We have some parts in common -- we both realize that asteroids played a significant part in the Flood. We differ in that he is going for vertical tectonic movement and I like a version of catastrophic plate tectonics. We tease each other. I say he's crazy and he says I'm an idiot. But we have respect for each other's abilities and enjoy each others company as we discuss how the evidences found in the field can be applied to our or any other flood models. I think that eventually he'll come over to my side. :)
Lou Hamby said:IS YEC teaching that there was no coal previous to the flood? I read an article on AIG site about this,and apparently 128 years of growth at our current rate would have been enough to produce coal seams as they exist today?
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Permalink Reply by Jim Brenneman on -
Lou asked how this layers can all come from a single Flood event. And that my friends is a very good question. We never ever see anything like this in any flood events that we have ever witnessed or heard of in history. Such a massive deposit of sedimentary layers would never be the result of "aflood." This sort of evidence can be accounted for ONLY by a massive global proportion that went on and on for many days and weeks and months. This had to be an event that extended across continents, that involved daily ebbing and flowing of tidal surges and massive tectonically induced tsunamis moving huge amounts of sediment in hydraulic patterns that would sort materials based on specific gravity, and sphericity, and fluid-dynamics.
Is there any other possible explanation within a young earth framework? Is there any other possible explanation in the context of an earth with no death (and hence no fossils) of living things until after the Fall? There is no way it seems to me for us to insert enough "local" events of sufficient magnitude to produce these and similar results all over the earth within the short time frame between the end of the Creation week and NOW, let alone between creation and the time of Noah. The events necessary to produce these geologic results even stretched over a period of 2000 years, would still be so vast and extensive as to constitute for all practical purposes a global event nonetheless. It seems easier to me for us to simply acknowledge the one GLOBAL EVENT that the Bible DOES describe!
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