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"When you boil it down to its essentials life is pretty deterministic, following the whim of organic chemistry which in turn is dictated by, well...regular chemistry. So to try and claim purpose on the grounds it manipulates nature or tries to…"

"Hence why I said at the localized level in the original argument. Life is extremely localized in the grand scheme of things, as it only naturally occurs in one spot (Earth). Besides, those cycles are merely obeying the physical laws that govern…"

"Yes, all science does contain within it some air of uncertainty but that doesn't place it all on equal footing. Just because no car can achieve infinite velocity doesn't mean we can't say that one car is faster than another.…"

"Life''s mechanism, however, is not nearly so basic. It requires information and specialized structures, not simple physics.  You are not taking the argument into the original context. I noted all of those cycles are governed by…"

"Whilst it might be theoretically possible to split the world up into the inevtiable and not, to do so would require more knowledge than we have access too. Discoveries are coated in qualifiers meaning that for the time being we can only give…"

"  The idea of a goal is precisely that. A goal by definition requires intent. Intent requires will and intellect. Or something would occur inevitably as a result of natural processes. I was defending the first premise to a certain extent.…"

"If you continue with this reasoning you'll have to change your original argument since it's dependent on associating life, purpose and intellect together on the grounds life has goals which requires intent. Now you're attempting to…"

"An interesting point, but ultimately missing the main point of this. Where did that genetic code come from? The genetic code of anything besides a virus rapidly disintegrates outside the cell, without proper storage. The fact is that these basic…"

"Ken Patrick, could you accept my friend request? It is because of a private matter I need to speak to you. In Christ, Private "

"Ken Patrick, could you accept my friend request? It is because of a private matter I need to speak to you. In Christ, Private"

"It seems to me that this argument is flawed since it doesn't demonstrate that life indeed has a purpose; or at least the same "kind" of purpose we only see arising from intellect.One of the explanations I've heard for why life…"

"Another issue with the idea of of seals being on the Ark is that they could swim. Unfortunately, this is one of the biggest issues with the flood. Why are there still fish? Secondly, all Equids can interbreed, and a very small subset of those…"

"Melvin,   Demand a situation where purpose has formed where there was not preceding purpose or function for which there is good physical evidence. Also, such a situation cannot have occurred because of a loss of information, such as flightless…"

"I find the rub, in most discussions with atheists, comes down to a priori definitions. For them purpose boils down to function and nothing more. To us purpose is a richer concept. The richness comes from the non-physical spiritual realm which they…"

"Such arguments may utilize information external to the Bible, but it must still hold that the Bible is the ultimate plumb line against which all "evidence" must align. "Let God be true and every man a liar." So far as…"